these have been very well loved over the last eight or so years, but are now way too small for me after considerable weight lifting. they were purchased brand new and in a raw state.

condition is well used, but well cared for with tons of character. the crotch has been darned once that i can remember, but is getting ready to blow-out, so will need to be repaired again. generally worn as long as possible between washes, but they have been a couple of times over the years, and air always dried.